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Village
09-18-2008, 11:25 PM
An interesting article about updates to the British Army's uniform and load bearing gear. Notice how closely new universal camo pattern resembles Safariflage!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1057767/Revealed-British-soldiers-return-wearing-Tommy-helmet-Army-unveils-new-equipment-infantrymen.html

Bear
09-19-2008, 12:10 AM
Great article, V. Appreciate the contribution!

Query for those more in the know regarding optics: Does the NOD (presuming that's what the rear optic is) being that far behind the EOTech affect use/function? I've never seen the two separated that much.

AustinWolv
09-19-2008, 08:21 AM
Perhaps a touch of the Safariflage to it. The jagged sections between Safariflage and DPM patterns is different......more discontinuous in the Safariflage with small sections and

Looks like they took the DPM pattern and changed the colors:
The black jagged shapes went to the dark brown.
The green and dark brown blobs went to light brown.
The base color (light brown/sand) lightened up a touch.

About time they stepped forward with updating their rigs.

Note the RIS and ACOG on the L85 in the 2nd picture. ACOGs were noted as being pushed into service to replace the SUSAT a couple years ago at least.

As for the apparent NOD that far back from the EOTech.......haven't tried it that far back. It would maintain better light amplification as compared to up against the optic, as that config makes the picture dimmer. With the NOD that far back, have to think they are trying to keep it more suited for observation, as well as aiming, rather than just for aiming when it is up against the optic.
Regardless, helmet-mounting with secondary aiming device (IR laser) is much more convenient and functional for both uses in my limited non-real-world experience.
Thus, not entirely sure why they have the NOD that far back.

Spooky1291
09-22-2008, 04:14 PM
I am pretty sure that is one of the new PAS-13 thermal scopes that just came out. It looks kind of large to be some sort of NOD that could be mounted on a helmet mount. The EO Tech could be sitting up front just because that's where he had room to mount the thing...there is no real advantage of mounting the EO Tech way up front.

AustinWolv
09-22-2008, 04:41 PM
Hm. The thermal sight seems even larger. Are you seeing them show up, Spooky? What do you think of them?
http://peosoldier.army.mil/factsheets/SEQ_SSL_TWS.pdf
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/ELEC_AN-PAS-13_LTWS_BAE_lg.jpg
http://www.defense-update.com/newscast/newsimages/AN-PAS-13.jpg

Bstann
09-22-2008, 06:41 PM
I think thats just a plain ol PVS14 blacked out on a weird high mount. The Brits have alot of those.

Spooky1291
09-25-2008, 05:22 PM
There are a lot of variants of thermals floating around these days. We just got a newer variant of the PAS-13 TWS. Its about the size of the one pictured. They do make larger ones for crew served weapons. All in all they aren't bad. They are useful for dusty/rainy conditions but they are still very grainy and require either special batteries or large quantities of AA's.