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Kilo
04-30-2005, 10:59 PM
Wow...

Cool research done there, Wolv.

AustinWolv
10-30-2005, 10:51 PM
Straight .25 tracer info added.

LongBow
11-07-2005, 09:26 AM
Thanks for the info from a local point of view. Even though the only choices we have locally are cyber gear from Walmart or Academy or the AE from Airsoftworks. Great job Wolv.

AustinWolv
11-07-2005, 09:30 AM
AE is all you need. ;)

However, since you have Internet access, there are scores of possibilities out there. :)

AustinWolv
12-29-2005, 01:02 PM
Thread updated with TM .3g measurements. Graphs shown above.

In test-firing the TM .3g versus the SGM .29 through a 525fps/.2g sniper rifle, the accuracy of each was very comparable. I was shooting at a natural feature in the woods behind my property at a range of ~55 yards, noticing no significant difference between the two types of BBs. Unscientific, but worth noting.

Rayzor
12-29-2005, 02:19 PM
Good work Wolv. I'm surprised TM beat the Super GMs in standard deviation.

Kilo
12-29-2005, 02:36 PM
As usual, par excellance Mr. Wolv

AustinWolv
12-29-2005, 02:43 PM
Good work Wolv. I'm surprised TM beat the Super GMs in standard deviation. Remember, sample size wasn't huge, so just a measurement or two makes a difference. Also want to remember that there is some slight inherent measurement error.

adammike
01-06-2006, 06:25 PM
Academy is where I get my BB's, but I do have Internet access so I'll most likely get some AE's now. Great researching by the way![smilie=2,3,6]

Spartan
03-01-2006, 12:02 PM
Is there a big difference between the black AE .25 and the white?

Thanks, and good job Wolv

AustinWolv
03-01-2006, 01:42 PM
Admittedly, I have not measured the black AE .25g yet, although my expectations are little difference than the whites.

beasthunter33
03-20-2006, 11:21 PM
Seeing as how this is a BB data thread I thought I would add a discovery I made. getting bored one day me and my neighbor started weighing differnet BB's. We found the .12gr cheapies to actually be about .18gr on ave. and the .2gr to be anywhere from .39-.42 with .40gr being the average.

All measurements were done on a grain scale used for measuring gunpowder.

AustinWolv
03-20-2006, 11:32 PM
beast, depending on the brand you were using, that is possible. However, it strictly contradicts findings here: www.airsoftmechanics.com

Note that BBs are weighed in grams, not grains.
1 gram = 15.432 358 353 grain

Is that the difference?

Also, please review #18 of the site rules.

beasthunter33
03-21-2006, 10:24 PM
NO they were all converted to grams, it has that listed on the balance above grains. And may I please ask why I am being chastised for forgetting to capitalize "getting" at the beginning of a sentence and using proper abbreviations for grams (gr.).

No offense but I have seen worse on this forum and it is still perfectly ledgeble (what I wrote).

Dark Paladin
03-21-2006, 10:29 PM
Actually, unless I am forgetting my metric system, "gram" is g. Hence kg for kilograms, as opposed to kgr.

beasthunter33
03-21-2006, 10:43 PM
Oh you know what I think you are right, my bad. Still, I don't think that should have been that big of an issue.

AustinWolv
03-22-2006, 12:16 AM
NO they were all converted to grams, it has that listed on the balance above grains. And may I please ask why I am being chastised for forgetting to capitalize "getting" at the beginning of a sentence and using proper abbreviations for grams (gr.).

No offense but I have seen worse on this forum and it is still perfectly ledgeble (what I wrote). You aren't being chastised; you are being requested to comply with forum rules. You have seen worse, but those people have been treated the same as you, i.e. per the forum rules. Just because you have seen worse does not make it right, and allowing one person to slide is what causes an eventual breakdown. It is a simple request, not a conviction. Relax. We do this to keep the forum clean and easy for users to read, not to badger people, so do not take it as a personal attack. The abbreviation of units was not the issue.

The accuracy of BB measurements may not be a big issue, but it is worth checking units to ensure apples are being compared to apples. The .2g BBs you measured coming in at .39-.42g is pretty far off, so that does not make sense. Hence, that is my reasoning for posing the comparable units question.

Crunkjuice
03-26-2006, 12:08 PM
Have you tried AE .23 BB's yet? I would expect them to be on par with the other AE weights but am not sure as it is an uncommon weight from what I have seen.

AustinWolv
04-04-2006, 08:17 AM
Have you tried AE .23 BB's yet? I would expect them to be on par with the other AE weights but am not sure as it is an uncommon weight from what I have seen.
Sorry, I have not. If you'd like to send me some, I would. ;)

AustinWolv
02-13-2007, 08:50 AM
Picked up a micrometer for more accurate measurements going forward. Already re-measured AE .25g and AE .28g, and they fall well enough in line with the original digital caliper measurements at the beginning of this thread to result in not having to totally redo the original data.

Crown
02-13-2007, 01:27 PM
Great job Wolv!

I'd be interested to see how ICS Stealth BB's rate.

satank
02-13-2007, 01:35 PM
Got some AE .23g's in today. I'll volunteer ~30 of them for measurement.
Will bring them with me to the San Marcos skirmish this weekend.

AustinWolv
02-13-2007, 03:57 PM
Crown, I have a bag on the way precisely for that. :)

satank, very cool of you and appreciated. :)

Crown
02-13-2007, 05:05 PM
Wolv,

You're right on top of things. My hat's off to ya!


---Crown

Dirus
02-13-2007, 07:56 PM
Mind if I bring some Tsunami .30g BBs for you to test? Been wondering how good they are and if it is worth buying more, as they are relatively cheap for +.25g BBs ($16/bag of 2000 at ASGI).

AustinWolv
02-14-2007, 12:27 AM
That works for me.

FallenOne
08-04-2007, 12:02 AM
Nice work! I wish i had calipers though... :P

RedRaptor
12-13-2007, 04:53 PM
Wolv, next time I see you, I'll try to bring you some Excel .25s and Crosman .2s. I'm curious to see how they measure up.